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UPDATE: ADTC’s views have changed since this conversation. He says “[Jasmine,] you know, you said so many insightful things that made so much sense and still does. I was being the theistic jerk that I always was before I fully accepted atheism – arguing for the existence of a ‘god’ that probably doesn’t exist (and the number 1 reason for that probability: he can’t defend his own existence LOL). My views have changed ever since, and among other things, our chat discussions have served as a stimulus for such changes. Thank you Jas.”

ADTC | Blog: Jul 14 says:

hey

who invented the law of gravity?

Jas says:

newton

ADTC | Blog: Jul 14 says:

what’s the meaning of the word ‘invent’?

Jas says:

haha

tricky

well newton discovered the law of gravity.

dunno who invented then

ADTC | Blog: Jul 14 says:

the unexplainable Divine Power that has created the Universe into existence.

Jas says:

or maybe he did create this law [by just stating it]

ADTC | Blog: Jul 14 says:

otherwise known widely as “God”

Jas says:

or

gravity is just a phenomenon

there’s no god

and boom the world has gravity

ADTC | Blog: Jul 14 says:

newton did not create the law of gravity. if he did, then all things would be floating before he did. and the apple would not have hit his head, and he would not have known the law of gravity. the snake just bit its own tail!

Jas says:

lol

funny

ADTC | Blog: Jul 14 says:

true or not

so you believe there is no god? doesn’t wicca believe in a certain higher power, btw? amy was talking about it, remember?

Jas says:

i know

i mean, it’s easy to dump everything you dun understand to ‘god’

ADTC | Blog: Jul 14 says:

uh, we understand gravity.

Jas says:

nt just gravity la

ADTC | Blog: Jul 14 says:

hmm

Jas says:

connection to ‘god’

means connection to higher power?

but actually its just a state of mind.

was there god?

or was it a conjured thing in the mind.

when lotsa ppl in church claim to feel god’s presence, is it social psychological thing?

ADTC | Blog: Jul 14 says:

u mean sociological thing?

ADTC | Blog: Jul 14 says:

anyway i don’t have a connection to god

Jas says:

can u ‘feel’ god

technically, u should be able to

cos ‘god’ created u.

ADTC | Blog: Jul 14 says:

we can’t always know the reality of things by the limited senses we have. anyway can mere chance create the universe?

Jas says:

do u know for sure it can’t?

is it chance that u get hit by a car or was it god who arranged it?

ADTC | Blog: Jul 14 says:

you’re talking about destruction.

Jas says:

creation n destruction

there’s a fine line between them

ADTC | Blog: Jul 14 says:

if you have all the spare parts of a car in a room, and then just pile them up together, what’s the possibility that a new working car would be made?

Jas says:

but they can be together.

i know where u r coming from.

its like it can’t just be random right?

then what if it’s evolution?

n accumulation of knowledge?

god din invent car.

right?

does god know tat cars exist?

n can cause harmful emissions?

if he knows, why din he write it in the bible

i know cars will be created by a guy called henry ford.

stop him.

because cars will be all over the world

n the place will be unhealthy.

he din say tat

if every natural thing is his creation, then disasters are his creations

i used to think that if god exist, he was mean cos he made natural disasters tat killed so many ppl, causing so much anguish.

but then i tot, it could also be a way of regulating the population

n the funny thing is, ppl still turn to ‘god’ for support to tide them over the tough period

its as if ‘god’ wants to test the surviving ppl

but its cruel to kill some off in disasters in the name of ‘god’s grand plan’

like ‘god’ knows it all, n so da ppl are just meant to die. sry bout it.

ADTC | Blog: Jul 14 says:

lol

Jas says:

so i tot.. its nicer if god din created everything.

ADTC | Blog: Jul 14 says:

yea, good insight.

Jas says:

i dunno if god did or nt.

but if he’s a nice god, i dunno why innocent ppl should die

there’s chaos theory to read on

ooh im eating nice pear. so sweet

=]

if god really exists, he ought to show himself somehow? instead of thousands of yrs ago only.

then u’ll knw tat a god did exist

he wun wan ppl to make up tales abt him

n nt correct them

if he really wants them to go the heaven by doing what he really wants.

if twitter is global, n there’s facebook, he’d have been on them

twittering.

n putting up vids to show what he can do.

y confuse ppl into thinkin there’s diff religion can leadin to religious wars? what fight for ur faith? if there’s one true god… there’s no need to fight.

the world will know peace.

oops. i think i twit too much lol..

ADTC | Blog: Jul 14 says:

haha

Jas says:

but ya, i used to fantasize…

i have a personal relationship with god

he’s a nice old man

like a daddy

it’d be great if he can recieve emails

n really talk to me

even if in riddles.

ADTC | Blog: Jul 14 says:

sounds like Christianity

Jas says:

that’s a form of ‘answering prayers’

ADTC | Blog: Jul 14 says:

i used to think of something similar

Jas says:

ya. tat was wat i tot when i was exploring christianity.

but then sorry dude. no god like this.

so.. i began to think that it’s a way of life.

never mind who created what.

because it doesn really matter.

but respect living things.

for everything has a purpose.

nothing was really created useless.

so its good to live in harmony

ADTC | Blog: Jul 14 says:

ya. why be bothered so much about a supposed afterlife, when you can’t even do much in this life.

Jas says:

ya.

live this life well.

if u can do that

even if u have a next life

or afterlife

u have learnt enough to carry on.

im treating things in my life as lessons.

n i dun think i have wasted my 2 decades just breathing n livin like a veg

;p

god din really help u get what you want, if ‘god’ or mr. chance exist.

but ‘god’ may create ‘coincidences’ or arrange events that look like coincidences to make u learn

maybe hor

there really is an afterlife

like imagine this

u die… n u began floating to a portal tat takes u to another dimension

u queue up in line n wonder where u r going.

then u get a form

fill up ur IC dOB, and ur religion

then u submit da form n they scan it

cos its OAS shading

then they have a vid record of everything u did.

and they calculate.. hmm u have done this this this = good and that that that that =bad.

PASS TO HEAVEN = FORFEITED.

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

then u get sorted by religion n get what u believed.

if u have no religion then what?

u dun go anywhere. but u are happy that things ended.

game over. =]

ADTC | Blog: Jul 14 says:

hahaha nice way to put it.

i was having the same thoughts.

Jas says:

high five

ADTC | Blog: Jul 14 says:

all people get what they believe.

Jas says:

lol.. are we cosmic twins all what

=p

ADTC | Blog: Jul 14 says:

if you believe in heaven and hell, you get it according to your beliefs. if you believe in reincarnation, you get reincarnated.

Jas says:

i wanna put what i tot on my wordpress

haha.

sounds so nice rite

u are what u eat and u get what u believe.

beware what u wish for u might just get it.

ergo cogito sum

haha tats said by who again?

ADTC | Blog: Jul 14 says:

not sure

Jas says:

descartes

NOTE: The above conversation is between two parties and the views are strictly their own. Viewers who do not like what they are seeing may wish to close the window. But you’d have finished reading by now, no? Haha. You are what you believe. Fine. I respect your choice. But I have my own thoughts too. So there’s no need to try and say which God is better.

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Comments on: "a chatwithadtc ;) titled: Ergo Cogito Sum" (3)

  1. Colour your name also. And make both names bold, if you can.

  2. I just stumbled upon this and read through it, and you know, you said so many insightful things that made so much sense and still does. I was being the theistic jerk that I always was before I fully accepted atheism – arguing for the existence of a ‘god’ that probably doesn’t exist (and the number 1 reason for that probability: he can’t defend his own existence LOL).

    My views have changed ever since, and among other things, our chat discussions have served as a stimulus for such changes.

    Thank you Jas.

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